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	<title>Comments on: Rep. Joe Wilson&#8217;s Lament: the difference between &#8220;No! No!&#8221; and &#8220;You lie!&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://www.buzztwang.com/2009/09/rep-joe-wilsons-lament-the-difference-between-no-no-and-you-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-806</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are confusing the issue and misstating. You wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;What Obama stated is in fact a lie. President Obama is well aware that via our emergency rooms, illegal aliens are receiving care for all their health care needs. No Democratic bill currently put forware will alter this fact.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is what Obama stated: &quot;There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms -- the reforms I&#039;m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meaning that there is nothing in the current health care bill that will extend coverage to illegal immigrants. If you know different, then please quote where in the bill it is. Here is a link. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is simply untrue. The current bill will NOT extend coverage to illegal immigrants. What YOU have presented is entirely different and separate from providing health care coverage to illegal immigrants. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What you are talking about is standing law (which is different from state to state) on how emergency patients are treated when they arrive at a hospital, including illegal immigrants, visiting foreign citizens, and uninsured Americans. Generally, most hospitals choose to willingly treat patients who arrive in ER regardless of their citizenship status, or lack or insurance. But, it is - in some states and hospitals - practiced voluntarily, and hospitals can and do refuse to treat patients on a patient by patient basis.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are saying that Obama lied about something he didn&#039;t say, and doesn&#039;t even apply to the current health care bill. It&#039;s made up. A ruse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nice try.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are you proposing that laws be changed so that hospitals can legally refuse treatment to illegal immigrants?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t think anyone wants to turn away people from the hospitals. Least of all the physicians who would be placed in that position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>You are confusing the issue and misstating. You wrote:</p>
<p><i>What Obama stated is in fact a lie. President Obama is well aware that via our emergency rooms, illegal aliens are receiving care for all their health care needs. No Democratic bill currently put forware will alter this fact.</i></p>
<p>This is what Obama stated: &#8220;There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms &#8212; the reforms I&#39;m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meaning that there is nothing in the current health care bill that will extend coverage to illegal immigrants. If you know different, then please quote where in the bill it is. Here is a link. <a href="http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text" rel="nofollow">http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text</a></p>
<p>It is simply untrue. The current bill will NOT extend coverage to illegal immigrants. What YOU have presented is entirely different and separate from providing health care coverage to illegal immigrants. </p>
<p>What you are talking about is standing law (which is different from state to state) on how emergency patients are treated when they arrive at a hospital, including illegal immigrants, visiting foreign citizens, and uninsured Americans. Generally, most hospitals choose to willingly treat patients who arrive in ER regardless of their citizenship status, or lack or insurance. But, it is &#8211; in some states and hospitals &#8211; practiced voluntarily, and hospitals can and do refuse to treat patients on a patient by patient basis.</p>
<p>You are saying that Obama lied about something he didn&#39;t say, and doesn&#39;t even apply to the current health care bill. It&#39;s made up. A ruse.</p>
<p>Nice try.</p>
<p>Are you proposing that laws be changed so that hospitals can legally refuse treatment to illegal immigrants?</p>
<p>I don&#39;t think anyone wants to turn away people from the hospitals. Least of all the physicians who would be placed in that position.</p>
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		<title>By: david white</title>
		<link>http://www.buzztwang.com/2009/09/rep-joe-wilsons-lament-the-difference-between-no-no-and-you-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-802</link>
		<dc:creator>david white</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Obama stated is in fact a lie.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;President Obama is well aware that via our emergency rooms, illegal aliens are receiving care for all their health care needs.  No Democratic bill currently put forware will alter this fact.  Think about it, the same care you would receive in a doctors office from a Democratic sponsored heath care bill would be cheaper than the care the illegal alien receives for the same problem in the emergency room.  We will be spending more for the same problem for the illegal alien than you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Obama stated is in fact a lie.</p>
<p>President Obama is well aware that via our emergency rooms, illegal aliens are receiving care for all their health care needs.  No Democratic bill currently put forware will alter this fact.  Think about it, the same care you would receive in a doctors office from a Democratic sponsored heath care bill would be cheaper than the care the illegal alien receives for the same problem in the emergency room.  We will be spending more for the same problem for the illegal alien than you.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://www.buzztwang.com/2009/09/rep-joe-wilsons-lament-the-difference-between-no-no-and-you-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-800</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are confusing the issue and misstating. You wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;What Obama stated is in fact a lie. President Obama is well aware that via our emergency rooms, illegal aliens are receiving care for all their health care needs. No Democratic bill currently put forware will alter this fact.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is what Obama stated: &quot;There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms -- the reforms I&#039;m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meaning that there is nothing in the current health care bill that will extend coverage to illegal immigrants. If you know different, then please quote where in the bill it is. Here is a link. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is simply untrue. The current bill will NOT extend coverage to illegal immigrants. What YOU have presented is entirely different and separate from providing health care coverage to illegal immigrants. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What you are talking about is standing law (which is different from state to state) on how emergency patients are treated when they arrive at a hospital, including illegal immigrants, visiting foreign citizens, and uninsured Americans. Generally, most hospitals choose to willingly treat patients who arrive in ER regardless of their citizenship status, or lack or insurance. But, it is - in some states and hospitals - practiced voluntarily, and hospitals can and do refuse to treat patients on a patient by patient basis.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are saying that Obama lied about something he didn&#039;t say, and doesn&#039;t even apply to the current health care bill. It&#039;s made up. A ruse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nice try.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are you proposing that laws be changed so that hospitals can legally refuse treatment to illegal immigrants?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t think anyone wants to turn away people from the hospitals. Least of all the physicians who would be placed in that position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>You are confusing the issue and misstating. You wrote:</p>
<p><i>What Obama stated is in fact a lie. President Obama is well aware that via our emergency rooms, illegal aliens are receiving care for all their health care needs. No Democratic bill currently put forware will alter this fact.</i></p>
<p>This is what Obama stated: &#8220;There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms &#8212; the reforms I&#39;m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meaning that there is nothing in the current health care bill that will extend coverage to illegal immigrants. If you know different, then please quote where in the bill it is. Here is a link. <a href="http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text" rel="nofollow">http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text</a></p>
<p>It is simply untrue. The current bill will NOT extend coverage to illegal immigrants. What YOU have presented is entirely different and separate from providing health care coverage to illegal immigrants. </p>
<p>What you are talking about is standing law (which is different from state to state) on how emergency patients are treated when they arrive at a hospital, including illegal immigrants, visiting foreign citizens, and uninsured Americans. Generally, most hospitals choose to willingly treat patients who arrive in ER regardless of their citizenship status, or lack or insurance. But, it is &#8211; in some states and hospitals &#8211; practiced voluntarily, and hospitals can and do refuse to treat patients on a patient by patient basis.</p>
<p>You are saying that Obama lied about something he didn&#39;t say, and doesn&#39;t even apply to the current health care bill. It&#39;s made up. A ruse.</p>
<p>Nice try.</p>
<p>Are you proposing that laws be changed so that hospitals can legally refuse treatment to illegal immigrants?</p>
<p>I don&#39;t think anyone wants to turn away people from the hospitals. Least of all the physicians who would be placed in that position.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://www.buzztwang.com/2009/09/rep-joe-wilsons-lament-the-difference-between-no-no-and-you-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-803</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are confusing the issue and misstating. You wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;What Obama stated is in fact a lie. President Obama is well aware that via our emergency rooms, illegal aliens are receiving care for all their health care needs. No Democratic bill currently put forware will alter this fact.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is what Obama stated: &quot;There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms -- the reforms I&#039;m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meaning that there is nothing in the current health care bill that will extend coverage to illegal immigrants. If you know different, then please quote where in the bill it is. Here is a link. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is simply untrue. The current bill will NOT extend coverage to illegal immigrants. What YOU have presented is entirely different and separate from providing health care coverage to illegal immigrants. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What you are talking about is standing law (which is different from state to state) on how emergency patients are treated when they arrive at a hospital, including illegal immigrants, visiting foreign citizens, and uninsured Americans. Generally, most hospitals choose to willingly treat patients who arrive in ER regardless of their citizenship status, or lack or insurance. But, it is - in some states and hospitals - practiced voluntarily, and hospitals can and do refuse to treat patients on a patient by patient basis.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are saying that Obama lied about something he didn&#039;t say, and doesn&#039;t even apply to the current health care bill. It&#039;s made up. A ruse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nice try.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are you proposing that laws be changed so that hospitals can legally refuse treatment to illegal immigrants?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t think anyone wants to turn away people from the hospitals. Least of all the physicians who would be placed in that position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>You are confusing the issue and misstating. You wrote:</p>
<p><i>What Obama stated is in fact a lie. President Obama is well aware that via our emergency rooms, illegal aliens are receiving care for all their health care needs. No Democratic bill currently put forware will alter this fact.</i></p>
<p>This is what Obama stated: &#8220;There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms &#8212; the reforms I&#39;m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meaning that there is nothing in the current health care bill that will extend coverage to illegal immigrants. If you know different, then please quote where in the bill it is. Here is a link. <a href="http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text" rel="nofollow">http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text</a></p>
<p>It is simply untrue. The current bill will NOT extend coverage to illegal immigrants. What YOU have presented is entirely different and separate from providing health care coverage to illegal immigrants. </p>
<p>What you are talking about is standing law (which is different from state to state) on how emergency patients are treated when they arrive at a hospital, including illegal immigrants, visiting foreign citizens, and uninsured Americans. Generally, most hospitals choose to willingly treat patients who arrive in ER regardless of their citizenship status, or lack or insurance. But, it is &#8211; in some states and hospitals &#8211; practiced voluntarily, and hospitals can and do refuse to treat patients on a patient by patient basis.</p>
<p>You are saying that Obama lied about something he didn&#39;t say, and doesn&#39;t even apply to the current health care bill. It&#39;s made up. A ruse.</p>
<p>Nice try.</p>
<p>Are you proposing that laws be changed so that hospitals can legally refuse treatment to illegal immigrants?</p>
<p>I don&#39;t think anyone wants to turn away people from the hospitals. Least of all the physicians who would be placed in that position.</p>
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		<title>By: david white</title>
		<link>http://www.buzztwang.com/2009/09/rep-joe-wilsons-lament-the-difference-between-no-no-and-you-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-799</link>
		<dc:creator>david white</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Obama stated is in fact a lie.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;President Obama is well aware that via our emergency rooms, illegal aliens are receiving care for all their health care needs.  No Democratic bill currently put forware will alter this fact.  Think about it, the same care you would receive in a doctors office from a Democratic sponsored heath care bill would be cheaper than the care the illegal alien receives for the same problem in the emergency room.  We will be spending more for the same problem for the illegal alien than you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Obama stated is in fact a lie.</p>
<p>President Obama is well aware that via our emergency rooms, illegal aliens are receiving care for all their health care needs.  No Democratic bill currently put forware will alter this fact.  Think about it, the same care you would receive in a doctors office from a Democratic sponsored heath care bill would be cheaper than the care the illegal alien receives for the same problem in the emergency room.  We will be spending more for the same problem for the illegal alien than you.</p>
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